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trooper is personally responsible for the condition of his horse。 

     Soc。 But suppose�察�when they  present themselves and their   horses�撮�5�А�

you find that some have brought beasts with bad feet or legs or otherwise 

infirm�察�and others such ill´fed jades that they cannot keep up on the march�察�

others�察  �again�察  �brutes   so   ill   broken   and   unmanageable   that   they   will   not 

keep their place in the ranks�察�and others such desperate plungers that they 

cannot   be   got   to   any   place   in   the   ranks   at   all。   What   becomes   of   your 

cavalry force then�拭�How will you charge at the head of such a troop�察�and 

win glory for the state�拭�

     ��5�А�For this phrase�察�see Schneider and Kuhner ad loc。 

     Hipp。 You are right。 I will try to look after the horses to my utmost。 

     Soc。    Well�察   �and   will  you    not   lay  your    hand    to  improve     the   men 

themselves�拭�

     Hipp。 I will。 



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     Soc。   The   first   thing   will   be   to   make   them   expert   in   mounting   their 

chargers�拭�

     Hipp。   That   certainly�察  �for   if   any   of   them   were   dismounted   he   would 

then have a better chance of saving himself。 

     Soc。 Well�察�but when it comes to the hazard of engagement�察�what will 

you do then�拭�Give orders to draw the enemy down to the sandy ground��6�А�

where you are accustomed to manouvre�察�or endeavour beforehand to put 

your men through their practice on ground resembling a real battlefield�拭�

     ��6�А�e。g。 the hippodrome at Phaleron。 

     Hipp。 That would be better�察�no doubt。 

     Soc。 Well�察�shall you regard it as a part of your duty to see that as many 

of your men as possible can take aim and shoot on horseback�殖�7�А�

     ��7�А�Cf。 ;Hipparch�察─�i。 21。 

     Hipp。 It will be better�察�certainly。 

     Soc。 And have you thought how to whet the courage of your troopers�拭�

to kindle in them rage to meet the enemy��which things are but stimulants 

to make stout hearts stouter�拭�

     Hipp。 If I have not done so hitherto�察�I will try to make up for lost time 

now。 

     Soc。 And have you troubled your head at all to consider how you are to 

secure   the   obedience   of   your   men�拭  �for   without   that   not   one   particle   of 

good will you get�察�for all your horses and troopers so brave and so stout。 

     Hipp。 That is a true saying�察�but how�察�Socrates�察�should a man best bring 

them to this virtue�殖�8�А�

     ��8�А。�protrepsasthai��。 See above�察�I。 ii。 64�察�below�察�IV。 v。 1。 

     Soc。   I   presume   you   know   that   in   any   business   whatever�察  �people   are 

more apt to follow the lead of those whom they look upon as adepts�察�thus 

in case of sickness they are readiest to obey him whom they regard as the 

cleverest physician�察�and so on a voyage the most skilful pilot�察�in matters 

agricultural the best farmer�察�and so forth。 

     Hipp。 Yes�察�certainly。 

     Soc。 Then in this matter of cavalry also we may reasonably  suppose 

that he who is looked upon as knowing his business best will command 



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the readiest obedience。 

     Hipp。 If�察�then�察�I can prove to my troopers that I am better than all of 

them�察�will that suffice to win their obedience�拭�

     Soc。 Yes�察�if along with that you can teach them that obedience to you 

brings greater glory and surer safety to themselves。 

     Hipp。 How am I to teach them that�拭�

     Soc。 Upon my word� �How are you to teach them that�拭�Far more easily�察�

I take it�察�than if you had to teach them that bad things are better than good�察�

and more advantageous to boot。 

     Hipp。    I  suppose    you   mean     that�察 �besides   his  other   qualifications    a 

commandant of cavalry must have command of speech and argument�殖�9�А�

     ��9�А  �Or�察   �practise   the  art  of  oratory;�察    �express    himself    clearly   and 

rationally。; See Grote�察 �H。 G。; VIII。 lxvii。 p。 463 note�察                  �Hipparch�察─�i。 

24�察�viii。 22。 

     Soc。 Were you under the impression that the commandant was not to 

open his mouth�拭�Did it never occur to you that all the noblest things which 

custom��10�А      �compels     us   to  learn�察  �and   to  which    indeed    we    owe    our 

knowledge   of   life�察  �have   all   been   learned   by   means   of   speech��11�А  �and 

reason�察�and if there be any other noble learning which a man may learn�察�it 

is this same reason whereby he learns it�察�and the best teachers are those 

who   have   the   freest   command   of   thought   and   language�察  �and   those   that 

have the best knowledge of the most serious things are the most brilliant 

masters of disputation。 Again�察�have you not observed that whenever this 

city of ours fits out one of her chorusessuch as that�察�for instance�察�which 

is sent to Delos��12�А�there is nothing elsewhere from any quarter of the 

world   which   can   compete   with   it�察  �nor   will   you   find   in   any   other   state 

collected so fair a flower of manhood as in Athens�殖�13�А�

     ��10�А  �Cf   Arist。   ;Rhet。;   ii。   12�察  。�oi   neoi   pepaideuntai   upo   tou   nomou 

monon��。 

     ��11�А。�dia logou��。 

     ��12�А�See Thuc。 iii。 104�察�and below�察�IV。 viii。 2。 

     ��13�А�See references ap。 Schneider and Kuhner�察 �Symp。; iv。 17。 

     Hipp。 You say truly。 



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     Soc。 But for all that�察�it is not in sweetness of voice that the Athenians 

differ from the rest of the world so much�察�nor in stature of body or strength 

of   limb�察  �but   in   ambition   and   that   love   of   honour��14�А  �which   most   of   all 

gives a keen edge to the spirit in the pursuit of things lovely and of high 

esteem。 

     ��14�А�See below�察�v。 3�察�Dem。 ;de Cor。; 28 foll。 

     Hipp。 That�察�too�察�is a true saying。 

     Soc。   Do   you   not   think�察  �then�察  �that   if   a   man   devoted   himself   to   our 

cavalry also�察�here in Athens�察�we should far outstrip the rest of the world�察�

whether in the furnishing of arms and horses�察�or in orderliness of battle´ 

array�察  �or   in   eager   hazardous   encounter   with   the   foe�察  �if   only   we   could 

persuade      ourselves     that  by   so   doing    we    should    obtain    honour    and 

distinction�拭�

     Hipp。 It is reasonable to think so。 

     Soc。 Have no hesitation�察�therefore�察�but try to guide your men into this 

path�撮�15�А�whence you yourself�察�and through you your fellow´ citizens�察�will 

reap advantage。 

     ��15�А   �Or�察   �to   conduct     which    will   not   certainly    fail  of   profit   to 

yourself or through you to 。 。 。; 

     Yes�察�in good sooth�察�I will try ��he answered��。 



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     At   another    time�察  �seeing    Nicomachides       on   his  way    back   from    the 

elections   ��of   magistrates���撮�1�А  �he   asked   him�此  �Who   are   elected   generals�察�

Nicomachides�拭�

     ��1�А  �Cf。   ;Pol。   Ath。;   i。   3�察  �Aristot。   ;Ath。   Pol。;   44。   4�察  �and   Dr。   Sandys' 

note ad loc。 p。 165 of his edition。 

     And he�此�Is it not just like them�察�these citizens of Athensjust like them�察�

I sayto go and elect�察�not me�察�who ever since my name first apepared on 

the muster´roll have literally worn myself out with military servicenow 

as a captain�察�now as a coloneland have received all these wounds from 



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the enemy�察�look you� 。�at the same time�察�and suiting the action to the word�察�

he bared his arms and proceeded to show the scars of ancient wounds�� 

they elect not me ��he went on���察�but�察�if you please�察�Antisthenes� �who never 

served as a hoplite��2�А�in his life nor in the cavalry ever   made a brilliant 

stroke�察�that I ever heard tell of�察�no� �in fact�察�he has got no science at all�察�I 

take it�察�except to amass stores of wealth。 

     ��2�А�Cf。 Lys。 xiv。 10。 

     But still ��returned Socrates���察�surely that is one point in his favour he 

ought to be able to provide the troops with supplies。 

     Nic。    Well�察  �for   the  matter    of   that�察 �merchants     are   good    hands    at 

collecting stores�察�but it does not follow that a merchant or trader will be 

able to command an army。 

     But ��rejoined Socrates�� Antisthenes is a man of great pertinacity�察�who 

insists on winning�察�and that is a very necessary quality in a general。��3�А�Do 

not you see how each time he has been choragos��4�А�he has been successful 

with one chorus after another�拭�

     ��3�А�See Grote�察 �Plato�察─�i。 465 foll。 

     ��4�А  �Choir´master�察     �or   Director    of  the   Chorus。    It  was    his  duty   to 

provide and preside over a chorus to sing�察�dance�察�or play at any                          of 

the     public    festivals�察   �defraying      the   cost    as    a   state   service     of 

��leitourgia��。 See ;Pol。 Ath。; iii。 4�察 �Hiero�察─�ix。 4�察�Aristot。                 ;Pol。 Ath。; 

28。 3。 

     Nic。 Bless me� �yes�察�but there is a wide difference between standing at 

the head of a band of singers and dancers and a troop of soldiers。 

     Soc。 Still�察�without any practical skill in singing or in the training of a 

chorus�察�Antisthenes somehow had the art to select the greatest proficients 

in both。 

     Nic。 Yes�察�and by the same reasoning we are to infer that on a campaign 

he will find proficients�察�some to marshal the troops for him and others to 

fight his battles�拭�

     Soc。 Just so。 If in matters military he only exhibits the same skill in 

selecting   the   best   hands   as   he   has   shown   in   matters   of   the   chorus�察  �it   is 

highly probable he will here also bear away the palm of victory�察�and we 



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may presume that if he expended so much to win a choric victory with a 

single tribe�撮�5�А�he will be ready to expend more to secure a victory in war 

with the whole state to back him。 

     ��5�А�See Dem。 ;against Lept。; 496。 26。 Each tribe nominated such of its 

members as were qualified to undertake the burden。 

     Nic。 Do you really mean�察�Socrates�察�that it is the function of the same 

man to provide efficient choruses and to act as commander´in´chief�拭�

     Soc。 I mean this�察�that�察�given a man knows what he needs to provide�察�

and has the skill to do so�察�no matter what the deparment of things may be 

house or city or armyyou will find him a good chief and director��6�А�of 

the same。 

     ��6�А�Or�察 �representative。; 

     Then   Nicomachides�此  �Upon   my   word�察  �Socrates�察  �I   should   never   have 

expected   to   hear   

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