握握弌傍利 > 凪麿窮徨慕 > phaedo >

及3嫗

phaedo-及3嫗

弌傍�� phaedo 忖方�� 耽匈3500忖

梓囚徒貧圭�鮗� ○ 賜 ★ 辛酔堀貧和鍬匈��梓囚徒貧議 Enter 囚辛指欺云慕朕村匈��梓囚徒貧圭�鮗� ● 辛指欺云匈競何��
!!!!隆堋響頼��紗秘慕禰厮宴和肝写偬堋響��





to bring us and the argument to the conclusion that while we are in



the body�察�and while the soul is mingled with this mass of evil�察�our



desire will not be satisfied�察�and our desire is of the truth。 For



the body is a source of endless trouble to us by reason of the mere



requirement of food�察�and also is liable to diseases which overtake and



impede us in the search after truth�此�and by filling us so full of



loves�察�and lusts�察�and fears�察�and fancies�察�and idols�察�and every sort of



folly�察�prevents our ever having�察�as people say�察�so much as a



thought。 For whence come wars�察�and fightings�察�and factions�拭�whence but



from the body and the lusts of the body�拭�For wars are occasioned by



the love of money�察�and money has to be acquired for the sake and in



the service of the body�察�and in consequence of all these things the



time which ought to be given to philosophy is lost。 Moreover�察�if there



is time and an inclination toward philosophy�察�yet the body



introduces a turmoil and confusion and fear into the course of



speculation�察�and hinders us from seeing the truth�此�and all



experience shows that if we would have pure knowledge of anything we



must be quit of the body�察�and the soul in herself must behold all



things in themselves�此�then I suppose that we shall attain that which



we desire�察�and of which we say that we are lovers�察�and that is wisdom��



not while we live�察�but after death�察�as the argument shows�察�for if



while in company with the body the soul cannot have pure knowledge��



one of two things seems to follow´either knowledge is not to be



attained at all�察�or�察�if at all�察�after death。 For then�察�and not till



then�察�the soul will be in herself alone and without the body。 In



this present life�察�I reckon that we make the nearest approach to



knowledge when we have the least possible concern or interest in the



body�察�and are not saturated with the bodily nature�察�but remain pure



until the hour when God himself is pleased to release us。 And then the



foolishness of the body will be cleared away and we shall be pure



and hold converse with other pure souls�察�and know of ourselves the



clear light everywhere�察�and this is surely the light of truth。 For



no impure thing is allowed to approach the pure。 These are the sort of



words�察�Simmias�察�which the true lovers of wisdom cannot help saying



to one another�察�and thinking。 You will agree with me in that��



  Certainly�察�Socrates。



  But if this is true�察�O my friend�察�then there is great hope that��



going whither I go�察�I shall there be satisfied with that which has



been the chief concern of you and me in our past lives。 And now that



the hour of departure is appointed to me�察�this is the hope with



which I depart�察�and not I only�察�but every man who believes that he has



his mind purified。



  Certainly�察�replied Simmias。



  And what is purification but the separation of the soul from the



body�察�as I was saying before�察�the habit of the soul gathering and



collecting herself into herself�察�out of all the courses of the body��



the dwelling in her own place alone�察�as in another life�察�so also in



this�察�as far as she can�察�the release of the soul from the chains of



the body��



  Very true�察�he said。



  And what is that which is termed death�察�but this very separation and



release of the soul from the body��



  To be sure�察�he said。



  And the true philosophers�察�and they only�察�study and are eager to



release the soul。 Is not the separation and release of the soul from



the body their especial study��



  That is true。



  And as I was saying at first�察�there would be a ridiculous



contradiction in men studying to live as nearly as they can in a state



of death�察�and yet repining when death comes。



  Certainly。



  Then�察�Simmias�察�as the true philosophers are ever studying death��



to them�察�of all men�察�death is the least terrible。 Look at the matter



in this way�此�how inconsistent of them to have been always enemies of



the body�察�and wanting to have the soul alone�察�and when this is granted



to them�察�to be trembling and repining�察�instead of rejoicing at their



departing to that place where�察�when they arrive�察�they hope to gain



that which in life they loved ��and this was wisdom���察�and at the same



time to be rid of the company of their enemy。 Many a man has been



willing to go to the world below in the hope of seeing there an



earthly love�察�or wife�察�or son�察�and conversing with them。 And will he



who is a true lover of wisdom�察�and is persuaded in like manner that



only in the world below he can worthily enjoy her�察�still repine at



death�拭�Will he not depart with joy�拭�Surely he will�察�my friend�察�if he



be a true philosopher。 For he will have a firm conviction that there



only�察�and nowhere else�察�he can find wisdom in her purity。 And if



this be true�察�he would be very absurd�察�as I was saying�察�if he were



to fear death。



  He would�察�indeed�察�replied Simmias。



  And when you see a man who is repining at the approach of death��



is not his reluctance a sufficient proof that he is not a lover of



wisdom�察�but a lover of the body�察�and probably at the same time a lover



of either money or power�察�or both��



  That is very true�察�he replied。



  There is a virtue�察�Simmias�察�which is named courage。 Is not that a



special attribute of the philosopher��



  Certainly。



  Again�察�there is temperance。 Is not the calm�察�and control�察�and



disdain of the passions which even the many call temperance�察�a quality



belonging only to those who despise the body and live in philosophy��



  That is not to be denied。



  For the courage and temperance of other men�察�if you will consider



them�察�are really a contradiction。



  How is that�察�Socrates��



  Well�察�he said�察�you are aware that death is regarded by men in



general as a great evil。



  That is true�察�he said。



  And do not courageous men endure death because they are afraid of



yet greater evils��



  That is true。



  Then all but the philosophers are courageous only from fear�察�and



because they are afraid�察�and yet that a man should be courageous



from fear�察�and because he is a coward�察�is surely a strange thing。



  Very true。



  And are not the temperate exactly in the same case�拭�They are



temperate because they are intemperate´which may seem to be a



contradiction�察�but is nevertheless the sort of thing which happens



with this foolish temperance。 For there are pleasures which they



must have�察�and are afraid of losing�察�and therefore they abstain from



one class of pleasures because they are overcome by another�此�and



whereas intemperance is defined as ;being under the dominion of



pleasure�察─�they overcome only because they are overcome by pleasure。



And that is what I mean by saying that they are temperate through



intemperance。



  That appears to be true。



  Yet the exchange of one fear or pleasure or pain for another fear or



pleasure or pain�察�which are measured like coins�察�the greater with



the less�察�is not the exchange of virtue。 O my dear Simmias�察�is there



not one true coin for which all things ought to exchange�拭�and that



is wisdom�察�and only in exchange for this�察�and in company with this�察�is



anything truly bought or sold�察�whether courage or temperance or



justice。 And is not all true virtue the companion of wisdom�察�no matter



what fears or pleasures or other similar goods or evils may or may not



attend her�拭�But the virtue which is made up of these goods�察�when



they are severed from wisdom and exchanged with one another�察�is a



shadow of virtue only�察�nor is there any freedom or health or truth



in her�察�but in the true exchange there is a purging away of all



these things�察�and temperance�察�and justice�察�and courage�察�and wisdom



herself are a purgation of them。 And I conceive that the founders of



the mysteries had a real meaning and were not mere triflers when



they intimated in a figure long ago that he who passes unsanctified



and uninitiated into the world below will live in a slough�察�but that



he who arrives there after initiation and purification will dwell with



the gods。 For ;many�察─�as they say in the mysteries�察 �are the thyrsus



bearers�察�but few are the mystics�察─�meaning�察�as I interpret the



words�察�the true philosophers。 In the number of whom I have been



seeking�察�according to my ability�察�to find a place during my whole



life�察�whether I have sought in a right way or not�察�and whether I



have succeeded or not�察�I shall truly know in a little while�察�if God



will�察�when I myself arrive in the other world�此�that is my belief。



And now�察�Simmias and Cebes�察�I have answered those who charge me with



not grieving or repining at parting from you and my masters in this



world�察�and I am right in not repining�察�for I believe that I shall find



other masters and friends who are as good in the world below。 But



all men cannot believe this�察�and I shall be glad if my words have



any more success with you than with the judges of the Athenians。



  Cebes answered�此�I agree�察�Socrates�察�in the greater part of what you



say。 But in what relates to the soul�察�men are apt to be incredulous��



they fear that when she leaves the body her place may be nowhere��



and that on the very day of death she may be destroyed and



perish´immediately on her release from the body�察�issuing forth like



smoke or air and vanishing away into nothingness。 For if she could



only hold together and be herself after she was released from the



evils of the body�察�there would be good reason to hope�察�Socrates��



that what you say is true。 But much persuasion and many arguments



are required in order to prove that when the man is dead the soul



yet exists�察�and has any force of intelligence。



  True�察�Cebes�察�said Socrates�察�and shall I suggest that we talk a



little of the probabilities of these things��



  I am sure�察�said Cebes�察�that I should gready like to know your



opinion about them。



  I reckon�察�said Socrates�察�that no one who heard me now�察�not even if



he were one of my old enemies�察�the comic poets�察�could accuse me of



idle talking about matters in which I have no concern。 Let us�察�then��



if you please�察�proceed with the inquiry。



  Whether the souls of men after death are or are not in the world



below�察�is a question which may be argued in this manner�此�The ancient



doctrine of which I have been speaking affirms that they go from



this into the other world�察�and return hither�察�and are born from the



dead。 Now if this be true�察�and the living come from the dead�察�then our



souls must be in the other world�察�for if not�察�how could they be born



again�拭�And this would be conclusive�察�if there were any real evidence



that the living are only born from the dead�察�but if there is no



evidence of this�察�then other arguments will have to be adduced。



  That is very true�察�replied Cebes。



  Then let us consider this question

卦指朕村 貧匯匈 和匯匈 指欺競何 壘��7�� 家��2��

低辛嬬浪散議