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the first place�察�let us see what influence he is exerting on
public sentiment。 In this and like communities�察�public sentiment
is everything。 With public sentiment�察�nothing can fail�察�without
it�察�nothing can succeed。 Consequently�察�he who moulds public
sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes or pronounces
decisions。 He makes statutes and decisions possible or
impossible to be executed。 This must be borne in mind�察�as also
the additional fact that Judge Douglas is a man of vast
influence�察�so great that it is enough for many men to profess to
believe anything when they once find out Judge Douglas professes
to believe it。 Consider also the attitude he occupies at the
head of a large party��a party which he claims has a majority of
all the voters in the country。 This man sticks to a decision
which forbids the people of a Territory from excluding slavery��
and he does so�察�not because he says it is right in itself��he
does not give any opinion on that��but because it has been
decided by the court�察�and being decided by the court�察�he is�察�and
you are�察�bound to take it in your political action as law�察�not
that he judges at all of its merits�察�but because a decision of
the court is to him a ;Thus saith the Lord。; He places it on
that ground alone�察�and you will bear in mind that thus committing
himself unreservedly to this decision commits him to the next one
just as firmly as to this。 He did not commit himself on account
of the merit or demerit of the decision�察�but it is a ;Thus saith
the Lord。; The next decision�察�as much as this�察�will be a ;Thus
saith the Lord。; There is nothing that can divert or turn him
away from this decision。 It is nothing that I point out to him
that his great prototype�察�General Jackson�察�did not believe in the
binding force of decisions。 It is nothing to him that Jefferson
did not so believe。 I have said that I have often heard him
approve of Jackson's course in disregarding the decision of the
Supreme Court pronouncing a National Bank constitutional。 He
says I did not hear him say so。 He denies the accuracy of my
recollection。 I say he ought to know better than I�察�but I will
make no question about this thing�察�though it still seems to me
that I heard him say it twenty times。 I will tell him�察�though��
that he now claims to stand on the Cincinnati platform�察�which
affirms that Congress cannot charter a National Bank�察�in the
teeth of that old standing decision that Congress can charter a
bank。 And I remind him of another piece of history on the
question of respect for judicial decisions�察�and it is a piece of
Illinois history belonging to a time when the large party to
which Judge Douglas belonged were displeased with a decision of
the Supreme Court of Illinois�察�because they had decided that a
Governor could not remove a Secretary of State。 You will find
the whole story in Ford's History of Illinois�察�and I know that
Judge Douglas will not deny that he was then in favor of over´
slaughing that decision by the mode of adding five new judges�察�so
as to vote down the four old ones。 Not only so�察�but it ended in
the Judge's sitting down on that very bench as one of the five
new judges to break down the four old ones It was in this way
precisely that he got his title of judge。 Now�察�when the Judge
tells me that men appointed conditionally to sit as members of a
court will have to be catechized beforehand upon some subject�察�I
say�察 �You know�察�Judge�察�you have tried it。; When he says a court
of this kind will lose the confidence of all men�察�will be
prostituted and disgraced by such a proceeding�察�I say�察 �You know
best�察�Judge�察�you have been through the mill。; But I cannot shake
Judge Douglas's teeth loose from the Dred Scott decision。 Like
some obstinate animal ��I mean no disrespect�� that will hang on
when he has once got his teeth fixed�察�you may cut off a leg�察�or
you may tear away an arm�察�still he will not relax his hold。 And
so I may point out to the Judge�察�and say that he is bespattered
all over�察�from the beginning of his political life to the present
time�察�with attacks upon judicial decisions�察�I may cut off limb
after limb of his public record�察�and strive to wrench him from a
single dictum of the court��yet I cannot divert him from it。 He
hangs�察�to the last�察�to the Dred Scott decision。 These things
show there is a purpose strong as death and eternity for which he
adheres to this decision�察�and for which he will adhere to all
other decisions of the same court。
��A HIBERNIAN�此 �Give us something besides Dred Scott。;��
Yes�察�no doubt you want to hear something that don't hurt。 Now��
having spoken of the Dred Scott decision�察�one more word�察�and I am
done。 Henry Clay�察�my beau´ideal of a statesman�察�the man for whom
I fought all my humble life�察�Henry Clay once said of a class of
men who would repress all tendencies to liberty and ultimate
emancipation that they must�察�if they would do this�察�go back to
the era of our Independence�察�and muzzle the cannon which thunders
its annual joyous return�察�they must blow out the moral lights
around us�察�they must penetrate the human soul�察�and eradicate
there the love of liberty�察�and then�察�and not till then�察�could
they perpetuate slavery in this country� �To my thinking�察�Judge
Douglas is�察�by his example and vast influence�察�doing that very
thing in this community�察�when he says that the negro has nothing
in the Declaration of Independence。 Henry Clay plainly
understood the contrary。 Judge Douglas is going back to the era
of our Revolution�察�and�察�to the extent of his ability�察�muzzling
the cannon which thunders its annual joyous return。 When he
invites any people�察�willing to have slavery�察�to establish it�察�he
is blowing out the moral lights around us。 When he says he
;cares not whether slavery is voted down or up�察�that it is a
sacred right of self´government��he is�察�in my judgment��
penetrating the human soul and eradicating the light of reason
and the love of liberty in this American people。 And now I will
only say that when�察�by all these means and appliances�察�Judge
Douglas shall succeed in bringing public sentiment to an exact
accordance with his own views�察�when these vast assemblages shall
echo back all these sentiments�察�when they shall come to repeat
his views and to avow his principles�察�and to say all that he says
on these mighty questions��then it needs only the formality of
the second Dred Scott decision�察�which he indorses in advance�察�to
make slavery alike lawful in all the States�察�old as well as new��
North as well as South。
My friends�察�that ends the chapter。 The Judge can take his
half´hour。
SECOND JOINT DEBATE�察�AT FREEPORT��
AUGUST 27�察�1858
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN��On Saturday last�察�Judge Douglas and myself
first met in public discussion。 He spoke one hour�察�I an hour and
a half�察�and he replied for half an hour。 The order is now
reversed。 I am to speak an hour�察�he an hour and a half�察�and then
I am to reply for half an hour。 I propose to devote myself
during the first hour to the scope of what was brought within the
range of his half´hour speech at Ottawa。 Of course there was
brought within the scope in that half´hour's speech something of
his own opening speech。 In the course of that opening argument
Judge Douglas proposed to me seven distinct interrogatories。 In
my speech of an hour and a half�察�I attended to some other parts
of his speech�察�and incidentally�察�as I thought�察�intimated to him
that I would answer the rest of his interrogatories on condition
only that he should agree to answer as many for me。 He made no
intimation at the time of the proposition�察�nor did he in his
reply allude at all to that suggestion of mine。 I do him no
injustice in saying that he occupied at least half of his reply
in dealing with me as though I had refused to answer his
interrogatories。 I now propose that I will answer any of the
interrogatories�察�upon condition that he will answer questions
from me not exceeding the same number。 I give him an opportunity
to respond。
The Judge remains silent。 I now say that I will answer his
interrogatories�察�whether he answers mine or not�察�and that after I
have done so�察�I shall propound mine to him。
I have supposed myself�察�since the organization of the Republican
party at Bloomington�察�in May�察�1856�察�bound as a party man by the
platforms of the party�察�then and since。 If in any
interrogatories which I
shall answer I go beyond the scope of what is within these
platforms�察�it will be perceived that no one is responsible but
myself。
Having said thus much�察�I will take up the Judge's interrogatories
as I find them printed in the Chicago Times�察�and answer them
seriatim。 In order that there may be no mistake about it�察�I have
copied the interrogatories in writing�察�and also my answers to
them。 The first one of these interrogatories is in these words��
Question 1。;I desire to know whether Lincoln to´day stands�察�as
he did in 1854�察�in favor of the unconditional repeal of the
Fugitive Slave law�拭─ �Answer��I do not now�察�nor ever did�察�stand
in favor of the unconditional repeal of the Fugitive Slave law。
Q。 2。;I desire him to answer whether he stands pledged to´day��
as he did in 1854�察�against the admission of any more slave States
into the Union�察�even if the people want them�拭─ �Answer��I do not
now�察�nor ever did�察�stand pledged against the admission of any
more slave States into the Union。
Q。 3。;I want to know whether he stands pledged against the
admission of a new State into the Union with such a constitution
as the people of that State may see fit to make�拭─ �Answer��I do
not stand pledged against the admission of a new State into the
Union�察�with such a constitution as the people of that State may
see fit to make。
Q。 4。;I want to know whether he stands to´day pledged to the
abolition of slavery in the District of Columbia�拭─�Answer��I do
not stand to´day pledged to the abolition of slavery in the
District of Columbia。
Q。 5。;I desire him to answer whether he stands pledged to the
prohibition of the slave´trade between the different States�拭�
Answer��I do not stand pledged to the prohibition of the
slave´trade between the different States。
Q。 6。I desire to know whether he stands pledged to prohibit
slavery in all the Territories of the United States�察�north as
well as south of the Missouri Compromise line�拭─�Answer��I am
impliedly�察�if not expressly�察�pledged to a belief in the right and
duty of Congress to prohibit slavery in all the United States
'Territories。
Q。 7。 ;I desire him to answer whether he is opposed to the
acquisition of any new territory unless slavery is first
prohibited therein�拭─ �Answer��I am not generally opposed to
honest acquisition of territory�察�and�察�in any given case�察�I would
or would not oppose such acquisition�察�accordingly as I might
think such acquisition would or would no